12:00 |
: It’s a chat!
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12:00 |
: Are the Royals overwhelming favorites to win it all now or do you still think other teams have a chance?
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12:00 |
: Heh
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12:00 |
: it’s april
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12:00 |
: Yup, I’m behind on my “April” responses since I was doing Career Day last week at at elementary/middle school
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12:01 |
: Have to drop one of Fairbanks, Alzolay, and Tanner Scott? Who is your pick?
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12:02 |
: Do you HAVE to? It might be Fairbanks. He looks the messiest right now
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12:03 |
: If you were to create a deli menu off your favorite composers, who do you choose and what sandwich do you name after them?
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12:03 |
: Hmm, I think a Beethoven would have some very peppery roast beef and some strong mustard or horseradish
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12:03 |
: but this isn’t an eating day for me
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12:03 |
: How real are the Royals right now? SSS but they have a great run differential, and are rated top 3 in offense, defense, and baserunning. Could this be a playoff team?.
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12:03 |
: Skeptical
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12:04 |
: Though certainly nice to see Melendez hitting how he is
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12:04 |
: Is MJ Melendez now an elite hitter? He had an amazing 2021 season, and seems to be channeling that again based on his power and really good BB:K ratio
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12:04 |
: Not going THAT far
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12:05 |
: Is the Jordan Hicks experiment…working?
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12:05 |
: Early returns are good, but I’m slightly worried he’s taken too much off to be a starter
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12:05 |
: I have a proposal for MLB that I call The Gladiator Rule for Umpires: each MLB coach gets one opportunity to trade places and toss the home plate ump per season. The umpire who gets tossed the most times each season gets demoted to MiLB. Explain to me why fans would not absolutely love this rule aside from the difficulty of keeping a backup ump at every game it causes, please?
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12:05 |
: While that’s FUN
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12:06 |
: I rather just have robot balls/strikes and work on getting the calls right \
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12:06 |
: I know I differ from a lot of fans, but I don’t consider umps a true part of the game, but a necessary evil to make sure the game is played correctly
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12:07 |
: Not to call anyone out, but can Fangraphs send a memo to their writers that 100th percentile does not exist?
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12:07 |
: It’s a mistake many make!
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12:07 |
and explanations are in order.
: Prior to this chat, you’ve chatted twice since Feb 9th. I think apologies |
12:07 |
: While I don’t apologize
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12:08 |
: I was on vacation two weeks post ZiPS, was sick one Thursday, did one career day, and the remaining day I had a crunch to finish my positional ranking contribs
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12:08 |
: Is JJ Picollo a legitimately good GM? I was worried for a long time he would be another Dayton, but the gems he has found and his investment and usage of analytics has me very hopeful
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12:08 |
: I think it’s still premature
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12:08 |
: Last year, JJ Picollo traded a Rookie Ball player, below average middle reliever, and rental reliever for an ace (Ragans), closer (McArthur), and middle of the order bat (Nelson Velazquez). Did he have one of the greatest trade deadlines ever?
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12:08 |
: Early returns are good. Though I’m not sold on Velazquez yet
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12:09 |
: What to do with Nolan Jones? Should I drop him to pick up Brandon Nimmo, Lane Thomas, Masataka Yoshida or Tyler O’neil?
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12:09 |
: No, he’s always going to be a Coors dude (well, in Colorado
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12:09 |
: What should the O’s do with Coby Mayo? We all love his potential, but his defense at 3rd hasn’t had the best marks from what I’ve read, and his arm is somewhat wasted at 1st, plus there is a glut of players at those positions in the majors. Would it be best to let him play 3B full time at AAA for the whole year (he is so young), so that you can bring him up next year from the beginning and try to angle for a draft pick?
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12:09 |
: I think you get him experience at multiple positions and see how the roster shakes out this year
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12:09 |
: then revisit depending on what happens with Santander
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12:10 |
: How come there aren’t really baseball blogs anymore?
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12:10 |
: I think blogs themselves have gone down a bit
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12:10 |
: unless you think of substacks that way
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12:10 |
: and I think social media has replaced some of it
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12:10 |
some role in pitcher injuries this year? I know it might not be the sole reason but we should be realistic.
: Can we all agree that the solar eclipse has |
12:11 |
: has ZIPS changed it’s mind meaningfully on any players based on their small sample performance so far this year?
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12:11 |
: By a huge amount? not really
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12:11 |
: I’ll probably do a late april/early may piece on that if people are interested
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12:12 |
Is an April Changed ZiPS Review worth your time in a couple weeks? Yes (63.4% | 78 votes) No (6.5% | 8 votes) Only if there’s Markakis content (21.1% | 26 votes) What’s ZiPS (3.2% | 4 votes) DAN I HAVE A FANTASY QUESTION (5.6% | 7 votes) Total Votes: 123 |
12:12 |
: What team has your opinion on changed the most in the first dozen games of the season?
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12:13 |
: I dunno, Red Sox?
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12:13 |
: I mean, my opinions haven’t changed much
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12:13 |
: because, you know
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12:13 |
: April
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12:13 |
: Let’s say a guy you currently consider a low variance, 100 wRC+ type suddenly starts hitting home runs in every single PA. How many consecutive HRs would he have to hit before you think he’s likely the best hitter in baseball?
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12:13 |
: I feel like this is an answer that shouldn’t be off the cuff but I can’t just run something to experiment right now
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12:13 |
: I dunno, 8?
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12:13 |
: I had to laugh at your article on if a AAA team was better than . It reminded me of all the times some sports announcer would declare “Alabama could win the NFC South”. While most of the time it is just hyperbole, many times they actually think this. It shouldn’t take a statistical analysis to declare “No, no they wouldn’t”.
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12:14 |
: Yeah, I think that when it happens, it’s exceedingly rare
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12:14 |
: Though I don’t think the difference is as large as college to NFL
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12:14 |
: People will note that teams win fewer than 56 games at times
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12:14 |
: but MLB teams aren’t PROJECTED to win fewer than 56 games
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12:15 |
: when you go 47-115, something’s gone wrong in almost all cases beyond just being crappy
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12:15 |
: Feelings toward the Raley-Caballero trade two weeks in?
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12:15 |
: It’s certainly looking good for ZiPS which was SUPER into Caballero
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12:16 |
: Bullish on Pepiot after the Colorado performance?
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12:16 |
: It was a solid start
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12:16 |
: But I’m not changing opinions on things based on doing an awesome job getting Rockies out!
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12:16 |
: Should I make a low-level or high-level move to replace Strider for the year?
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12:16 |
: For STRIDER I’d be aggressive
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12:17 |
: Are you buying that his flattened bat path swing change is the reason behind Anthony Volpe’s early offensive success?
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12:17 |
: I’m not sure I’d choose THAT based on just a handful of games
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12:17 |
: But I do like how his plate discipline has improved
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12:18 |
: Are there any teams you now think may be better than you thought two weeks ago?
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12:18 |
: Yankees, maybe because I’m a bit more confident on Rodon
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12:18 |
: Anyone ever tell you you look like Rich Evans from Red Letter Media?
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12:19 |
: Him specifically no
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12:22 |
: Things I’ve heard are one of the guys from Of Monsters and Men, Phil Kessel, “a cross between Shrek and Göring, and an overweight actor with a greek sounding last name that ends in us that I forget right now
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12:22 |
: (nto Galifianakis)
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12:22 |
: not
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12:22 |
: Does Benintendi have much of a future as an everyday player?
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12:22 |
: Meh. I think he’s really a fourth outfielder type
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12:22 |
: What metric is most important to lineup strategy and why is it WHIP?
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12:23 |
: Heh, that was an amazing Reddit thread
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12:23 |
: TLDR version
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12:23 |
: Guy insists he has a secret lineup model using OBP/RBI/R that can improve teams by 10 wins a year
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12:24 |
: But only a few teams contract his services because a lot of teams only need 1-9 wins
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12:24 |
: Then claimed to have met me and being disappointed with my behavior
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12:24 |
: and accusing me of not being the real Dan Szymborski
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12:24 |
: How quickly do projections shift for players where we’re getting their first looks at Big League playing time?
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12:24 |
: Not TOO much
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12:24 |
: Hot Take – Jackson Holiday is overmatched and needs to be sent down to AA.
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12:25 |
: Tyler O’Neill. . . I guess I don’t have a question.
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12:25 |
: Dan we need more entries in that “what if?” series that you ran during 2020 with projections for players who were derailed by injuries
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12:25 |
: I know, I gotta do more Time Warps
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12:25 |
: Which Jackson (Chourio, Holliday, Merrill) do you think finishes the season with the highest wRC+?
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12:25 |
: Holliday
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12:25 |
: Justin Turner is the Jays best hitter. Discuss.
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12:25 |
: I wouldn’t go that far
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12:26 |
: Are the Tigers destined for another bottom 5 offensive season or is there enough potential improvement there to bring them out of the basement?
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12:26 |
: I think they’re OKish, somewhere between the 8th-11th best AL offense
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12:26 |
: Re: Career day – did you tell the kids that your job is basically fiddling with spreadsheets and talking to strangers on the internet about your cats?
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12:26 |
: I just did the straight up version
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12:27 |
: I think most of the older kids were more interested in the esports I wrote about for a few years at ESPN than my baseball things
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12:27 |
: Though a couple teachers were really excited to talk baseball with me
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12:27 |
: Nobody’s said anything to me, but I think the first grade class was a disaster
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12:28 |
: I was kinda shoved in with first graders because I got there early and a speaker cancelled, so they just sent me there as a bonus rind
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12:28 |
: round
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12:28 |
: I started off asking them if anyone enjoys writing
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12:28 |
: which is pretty stupid for six year olds
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12:28 |
: crickets and they just got more confused from there
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12:28 |
: Since the A’s supposedly want to be a $120-130M in the Short Term, which player do they throw a stupid amount of money to
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12:29 |
: Maybe Gelof
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12:30 |
: How does ZIPS estimate Holds. It seems like that would be incredibly context dependent and difficult to model.
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12:30 |
: It doesn’t!
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12:30 |
: If it is, something’s really gone wrong since I’m unaware of trying to model them
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12:30 |
: Is the Carlos Rodon start a mirage? He’s way down in k’s from his big years, and he’s giving up a lot of hits while also suppressing runs.
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12:30 |
: I’m just happy he’s not getting destroyed
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12:30 |
: Was not trading a young arm for an everyday bat this offszn the wrong move?
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12:30 |
: I think it’s a real risk
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12:30 |
: Who’s called up next for the Birds? Stowers? Kjerstad? How do they make room? And why do all these guys bat from the left (I know Stowers’ splits right now, but still, getting pretty susceptible to LHP).
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12:31 |
: I think it’s really hard to call up offensive players after Holliday without some very bad things having happened
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12:31 |
: There’s just not a lot of room int he lineup
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12:31 |
: Nick Ahmed lapping the field in defensive metrics early on as we all suspected. Still enough in the tank to be a worthwhile contributor after the small sample size mojo goes away?
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12:31 |
: Color me skeptical
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12:31 |
: MLB should set a pitch speed limit of like 96 or 97. Anything faster is simply a do over pitch. I’m only 80% joking
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12:31 |
: Thing is, I don’t know how you do this even if it’s practical
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12:32 |
: What all goes into the ZiPS defensive projections for prospects/guys without any of the advanced defensive metrics? Is it mainly going off of the scouting grade or are there other factors weighing in there in any significant way?
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12:32 |
: ZiPS has it’s own Total Zone system for the minors and does an aggregate of advanced systems in majors
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12:32 |
: Why is he not known as John Wilkes Strider? Have you taken a look at the man?
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12:33 |
: With regard to blogs going downhill, blogs initially built community being written by fans, those fans burned out and left the blogs for the most part and faceless tech cos like Vox have underpaid replacements come in and run them as click mills. This is the story of the death of the baseball blog. See Bucsdugout and Vox’s “disgraced preacher” site admin story as the most hilarious/weirdest version of this story.
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12:34 |
: The difficulty to monetize really hurt
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12:35 |
: In a way, blogs became more lucrative for the creators as launching pads for other things than for the blogs themselves
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12:35 |
: I mean, given what they pay, we could easily do a ton of team blogs on FG
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12:35 |
: *but* we pay people
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12:36 |
: And things like Substack are just more lucrative for creators
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12:36 |
: Can the O’s please be done with Austin Hays? It’s not even the slow start, he’s just a very streaky barely above league average bat and I’d rather see Cowser or Kjerstad in over him pretty much all the time
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12:36 |
: Perosnally, I agree. Mullins has a lot more rope
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12:36 |
: Thoughts on Brady Singer’s early season success? Pls dont say April
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12:36 |
: Avril
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12:36 |
: Do you think moving to a 6 days between starts or a different ball would be more helpful in reducing pitching injuries
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12:37 |
: I’m…not sure
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12:37 |
: It might be more the magnitude of the effort rather than the amount of the effort?
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12:37 |
: Does this sentence make sense to anyone?
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12:37 |
: Do any MLB teams have significant data in kinesthesiology? I’m curious if any analysis has been done to prevent their arms from falling off
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12:37 |
: I think this is one of the big things that teams would love to have
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12:38 |
: Who is the handsomest active baseball player?
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12:38 |
: Not sure I’m the best judge of that
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12:38 |
: I dunno, Kris Bryant?
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12:39 |
: He’s got those piercing eyes
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12:39 |
: I imagine if I were into that kind of thing I’d get lost in them?
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12:39 |
: Do you or does zips have an idea of how to quantify the impact coaches have on the team? I’m looking specifically on how if 1st and 3rd base coaches have tangible impact on their team’s base running, but if you have info on pitching or hitting coaches that would be awesome too. Thanks in advance
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12:39 |
: I do not
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12:39 |
: Every year we fall for Victor Scott types don’t we
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12:39 |
: We fall for fun things
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12:40 |
: I tell you, Victor Scott II on my bench in MLB the Show was an easy way to get the CF SB requirement in one of the MLB the Show programs
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12:40 |
: Since a lot of the highest SPD/STL ratings in MLB the Show are guys listed as corner outfielders (Carroll for one)
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12:40 |
: What’s considered meeting expectations for a top overall prospect? 10 years, 40 WAR?
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12:41 |
: Even that’s progbably aggressive as the future is very uncertain
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12:41 |
: Is there a rule of thumb formula to estimate a player’s expected RBI or Runs Scored based on their hitting performance? Please give me some idea…
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12:42 |
: a model of runs scored based on times on base and sprint speed or speed score are is really good
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12:45 |
: I didn’t have time to get back into a Judge RBI piece I was working on
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12:45 |
: but when I have a good excuse for an RBI piece
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12:46 |
: RBI is VERY competently modeled with ABwROB, HR, overall BA, overall SLG
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12:46 |
:
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12:47 |
: Is there a problem with media if the news of my exoneration is being buried compared to the initial headlines?
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12:48 |
: Yeah, but if it bleeds it leads
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12:48 |
: Sometimes I go back and read that thread on Tom’s Hardware about power supplies being partisan.
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12:48 |
: Wait, what’s that?
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12:48 |
: Juan Soto to the A’s?
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12:48 |
: poor Soto
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12:48 |
: If you’re looking for guys to examine, I’d be curious to see Herb Score, Roy Oswalt after 2008, Gooden after 1988, and Tom Tresh after 1966
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12:48 |
: “who here likes to do multivariate regression analysis?” – Dan, as 1st grade kids stare completely befuddled
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12:49 |
: I did not mention regression analysis or nonparametric modeling!
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12:49 |
: Even I’m not dumb enough to do that
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12:49 |
: “Hey gang, who here likes cluster analysis?”
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12:49 |
: the pitch clock is wonderful, I hope everyone can stay calm and not overreact
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12:49 |
: I saw all the changes that Fangraphs made to WAR math. Does Bbref do something similar and if so how did they announce the changes when they happen ? Are you a fan of “ever-changing” WAR ?
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12:49 |
: I’m a fan of changing WAR
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12:49 |
: because our understanding of the game and things that happens is always improving
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12:50 |
: and WAR is framework to represent our best estimate
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12:50 |
: Hey Dan, thanks for all of your work. I’ve got a question about a stat I’ve been trying to find that seems important, but that I never see anyone writing about. Does fangraphs track (and can people view somewhere) the ratio of a player’s in-zone-swing-rate to out-of-zone-swing-rate? Or put differently, the percentage of times that a player (given that he swung at a pitch) was swinging at a pitch that was in the zone rather than out of it? It seems like a good way of quantifying a player’s eye for the strike zone, but I don’t know whether it’s readily available anywhere
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12:50 |
: No, but you can calculate it pretty quickly unless I’m misunderstanding the question
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12:50 |
: It’s Julio Rodriguez (who has even more piercing eyes)
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12:51 |
: Is there any locked away Statcast/similar data that you’re itching to get your hands on or is everything you need public?
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12:51 |
: I want more bat speed data!
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12:51 |
Doing some quick Statcast searched, SP allow a .309 wOBA the first time through the order, and a .319 wOBA the second time (2021-present). RP allow a .309 wOBA across the board, so it seems like from a modeling standpoint an “ideal” manager would pull his starter after 9 batters faced. Since the rough rule of thumb is to pull them after two times through the order, there must be some ~.003 wOBA value for every additional inning pitched by a starter, but how would you actually measure/value that other than looking at how teams are managed in real life? |
12:51 |
: On a team level, I don’t go into those nitty gritties
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12:51 |
: I make a model of teh general team quality from the percentile projections
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12:51 |
: make a distro
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12:52 |
: and then sim on game level
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12:52 |
: Re: Most Handsome player in baseball, my wife is a very strong advocate for Bryant and Kiermaier to hold that title lol
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12:53 |
: A very nice woman my age whose name I will not say has seemed very into Votto and Blackmon when I’ve dragged her to games
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12:53 |
: Jordan Montgomery has fired Bott Scoras. Thoughts?
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12:53 |
: Well, he’s certainly not happy about the results!
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12:53 |
: And is it wrong to miss Esskay franks?
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12:54 |
: No, because one’s history/memories plays a huge part in how we perceive food
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12:54 |
: Does anyone win 82 in the NL Central in 2024?
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12:54 |
: Yeah, someone does more likely than not
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12:54 |
: Do I need to drop Hoerner? Pick up caballero or Julien or cronenworth?
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12:55 |
: I’m honestly always a little sour on Hoerner in fantasy simply because you’re not really taking advantage of his defense
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12:55 |
: Dan, any eta on the Diamond Mind Projection disk?
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12:55 |
: It was submitted right at opening day
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12:55 |
: the guy who makes it for DMB also does work for Red Sox and it depends on his workload
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12:55 |
: Just got my first kitten. Did you know that they’re crazy?
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12:55 |
: kittens are frequently insane
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12:55 |
: Though I strongly recommend adopting in pairs if the situation arises
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12:56 |
: Kittens will use a lot of their energy playing with their littermate
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12:56 |
: DMB = Dave Matthews Band
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12:56 |
: A Dave Matthews Band projection disk would be a weird thing to do
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12:56 |
: I am Kitten’s Kitten. I am crazy. I crave a buddy, I was not adopted in a pair.
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12:56 |
: All the kittens I’ve had have been crazy
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12:56 |
: except for Galileo, who was always a cool customer
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12:56 |
: Though for the first few weeks, he insisted on being carried to the litter box
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12:57 |
: Name one Cardinal player you feel optimistic about more than ZiPS
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12:57 |
: Walker
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12:57 |
: though he’s not been good
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12:57 |
: (Jordan)
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12:57 |
: Do you like the idea of tying the DH to SP remaining in the game? Maybe if the starter goes 6 you get to keep DH full game but otherwise lose DH when starter exits?
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12:57 |
: I think the curren timplementation is fine
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12:58 |
: The Red Sox obviously need a shortstop. When is the earliest Mayer could be called up? Is going up too early really going to affect his development that much, if he’s playing everyday anyway just for defense?
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12:58 |
: Honestly, I’m hoping they get him up by midseason if they’re still in the race
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12:58 |
: why do baseball teams make starters pitch so much more then relievers
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12:58 |
: Remember, starters are already selected for being ostensibly able to pitch more
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12:59 |
: We’re only 10 innings in, but so far ZiPS’ optimism in Imanaga seems like a win compared to Pecota’s unbelievably dour 4.17 ERA 99th percentile projection
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12:59 |
: It’s REALLY early of course
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12:59 |
: but I won’t lie, I like Imanaga *and* I also like looking smart, so I have an incentive to root for hoim!
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12:59 |
: Is Brady Anderson’s 1996 really the flukiest homer season ever? Seems less odd to me, I guess, than Boggs or Campenaris big years, probably some others too
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12:59 |
: You know, I’ve never really modeled this
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1:00 |
: Maybe Davey Johnson?
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1:01 |
: Sveum
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1:01 |
: Boggs is a big one of course
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1:03 |
: was gonna say Bob Cerv but forgot he had another 20 homer year
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1:04 |
: When will Fangraphs be adding a “neither” row to day/night splits to account for stats accrued during the eclipse?
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1:04 |
: heh
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1:05 |
: Wasn’t Guardians-White Sox the only eclipse game?
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1:06 |
: When you have a really tall player like Oneil Cruz, do projections for strikeouts and walks change? His strike zone would be proportionately bigger, so that would be more area to hit for a strike. Is there any relationship between height and any strike zone thing? Would it only show up on the outliers?
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1:06 |
: I haven’t found much value
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1:06 |
: because the height is already factored into their reults
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1:06 |
: and I haven’t found it improves projections
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1:06 |
: do you think that there’s anything predictive behind how a final score is reached? for example, is a team worse for losing 5-6 after the first leading 5-0 rather than losing by the same score but coming back from 0-6 (assuming no usage of low leverage players)? My hypothesis is no but the fan sentiment in both of these scenarios I imagine would be very different
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1:06 |
: Not really, no
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1:06 |
: On that note, I have to head out for another week
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1:06 |
: Thanks for coming all!
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Dan Szymborski is a senior writer for FanGraphs and the developer of the ZiPS projection system. He was a writer for ESPN.com from 2010-2018, a regular guest on a number of radio shows and podcasts, and a voting BBWAA member. He also maintains a terrible Twitter account at @DSzymborski.